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Reply #11 - Jan 1st, 1970 at 12:00am
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my two cents aren't worth much but I like the original line better
  
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Quote:
I don't like:   
" Now some are given coins their circle picks—


Actually, this was the most troubling line for me. It doesn't flow too well, and I'm stuck as to what to do. I'm hoping for some suggestions to free the road blocks. Feel free to put in your two-cents worth. 


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Well, I like the first to lines of the 2nd stanza because it matches well with the last two lines.  I don't like: 
" Now some are given coins their circle picks—" so much in the revision and I don't know why but it does fit the new ending. And the name is perfect but I didn't get the playful feel in the original that I do in the revision which is not bad... your work just changed my idea of what it was saying  Undecided
  
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percephanie wrote on Jan 1st, 1970 at 12:00am:
Doug, 
I like your revision but didn't completely appreciate it until I read the crits.  You do such good work as you can change an entire stantza and both work well... I'm undecided about the revision of the last. They both work so well. 
Grin


Hey Perce,

Thanks for stopping by, I appreciate your thoughts. Tell me, do you see anything that you don't understand; anything that puts question marks over your head?  ???

Feel free to question or suggest something. This is a great way to apply what you are learning to someone elses work. It's ok to be critical; that's how we learn.  Smiley

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Doug, 
I like your revision but didn't completely appreciate it until I read the crits.  You do such good work as you can change an entire stantza and both work well... I'm undecided about the revision of the last. They both work so well. 
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sunilmathur wrote on Jan 1st, 1970 at 12:00am:
'Initial nomenclatures' does'nt seem quite appropriate when used with the name of a human being. Normally you would have used 'first names' but had to use the alternative to meet the demands of meter. In that case, the first line could read something like: 'First names given us at birth tend to be'. The last line of the second stanza ('because of something fun or infamy') also sounds quaint. Perhaps we could say: 'because of either fun or infamy'.


Thanks for stopping by Sun; I've pondered your thoughts and have done some revision from ideas that you so graciously gave me. Thanks!

Doug
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EzraWrites wrote on Jan 1st, 1970 at 12:00am:


Hey D Allen, or Allen, or Jenkins, or Allen Jenkins...lol

EW,

Hey there good to see you again. 

Actually, this poem grew out of an issue with my screen name and login name here on the Train. My old screen name/current login name( TM Douglas) still appears when I post a response to someone, but my new screen name (D. Allen Jenkins) appears when I start a new thread. So it appears that some guy called TM Douglas has responded to D. Allen's work, but we are one and the same.


I'd spell infamy like this in-famy. 'because of something fun or infamy' doesn't sound right on the read. Maybe even another word. -

At first glance, it would appear that infamous is the needed word, and it would indeed work. But infamy works too if read as...because of something fun, or because of infamy. That's what I was going for. 

- 'it is the smell to which that poet sings'  Even though poet would be singular I think it would carry "poets" along with it - 

I said,... it is the smell of which that poets sing. And there have been many a poet to sing of the rose, not just "that" poet. I don't want to leave anyone out; I'd fell bad about that.  Wink

- on a side note I think 'being' ought to be left out of 98% of poetry (personal bias) - 

Is there room for mine in the 2%?  Grin

Our lives are measures(d) by things said and done; 
Thanks for the catch. I hate it when that happens.  Embarrassed

I think the last line is weak and cliche. "we're still the one"? I know you can write it better than that DAJ... 
The title could also be more poetic. The names of poems DO count.  Grin  

Actually, they tie together to both make more sense, and a stronger feel. When you play the game of Tag, and someone tags you, what do they say? You're it! That is, You're the One. No matter what we call ourselves, we're it!

Thanks for taking a look at this. I appreciate it.

Doug


  
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'Initial nomenclatures' does'nt seem quite appropriate when used with the name of a human being. Normally you would have used 'first names' but had to use the alternative to meet the demands of meter. In that case, the first line could read something like: 'First names given us at birth tend to be'. The last line of the second stanza ('because of something fun or infamy') also sounds quaint. Perhaps we could say: 'because of either fun or infamy'.
  
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Hey D Allen, or Allen, or Jenkins, or Allen Jenkins...lol

Initial nomenclatures tend to be 
our name of choice, but often people use 
their middle names, unless, like royalty, 
they have a plethora from which to choose. 
 
Still others have a name another picks— 
their lover, brother, friend or enemy; 
a name with which they’re tagged that always sticks 
because of something fun or infamy. 

- I'd spell infamy like this in-famy. 'because of something fun or infamy' doesn't sound right on the read. Maybe even another word. -
 
Yet what we call ourselves does not disguise 
reality’s expression of our being; 
it’s not the rose’s name that quantifies— 
it is the smell of which that poets sing. 

- 'it is the smell to which that poet sings'  Even though poet would be singular I think it would carry "poets" along with it - 

- on a side note I think 'being' ought to be left out of 98% of poetry (personal bias) -


Our lives are measures(d) by things said and done; 
no matter what we’re called, we’re still the one. 

-I think the last line is weak and cliche. "we're still the one"? I know you can write it better than that DAJ. 

Just a quick run through in the late-night. I like the idea of the poem and a quick count of the beats looks good. 
The title could also be more poetic. The names of poems DO count.  Grin  
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Brique wrote on Jan 1st, 1970 at 12:00am:
Doug,

This is great.  I never feel qualified to critique your work because it always looks perfect to me and reads so well aloud.  So it's a compliment I've to offer instead. I especially love this:

it’s not the rose’s name that quantifies—
it is the smell of which that poets sing.


Monique


Thanks Monique. 

Believe me, perfection is a conceptual word with regards to me; I know little of it in practice. I am grateful, however, for your kindness, and I'm glad you liked my effort.

Doug

  
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Doug,

This is great.  I never feel qualified to critique your work because it always looks perfect to me and reads so well aloud.  So it's a compliment I've to offer instead. I especially love this:

it’s not the rose’s name that quantifies—
it is the smell of which that poets sing.


Monique
  
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Initial nomenclatures tend to be
a proper name; yet some prefer to use
their middle one, unless, like royalty,
they have a plethora from which to choose.

Now some are given coins their circle picks—
their lover, brother, friend or enemy;
a name that ,once they’re tagged, forever sticks
because of deeds in fun or infamy.

But labels, foul or fair, cannot disguise
reality’s expression of our being;
it’s not the rose’s name that quantifies—
it is the smell of which that poets sing.

So whether you're termed saint or hypocrite;
the smell that tags you always says "you're it!"

© D. Allen Jenkins

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Initial nomenclatures tend to be
our name of choice, but often people use
their middle names, unless, like royalty,
they have a plethora from which to choose.

Still others have a name another picks—
their lover, brother, friend or enemy;
a name with which they’re tagged that always sticks
because of something fun or infamy.

Yet what we call ourselves does not disguise
reality’s expression of our being;
it’s not the rose’s name that quantifies—
it is the smell of which that poets sing.

Our lives are measured by things said and done;
no matter what we’re called, we’re still the one.

© D. Allen Jenkins
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